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		<title>Sam: Sam moved page Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013 to Turtle Sense/Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013 without leaving a redirect: subpage</title>
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		<updated>2013-12-22T19:55:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sam moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Minutes_of_conference_call_10-18-2013&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013 (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Turtle_Sense/Minutes_of_conference_call_10-18-2013&quot; title=&quot;Turtle Sense/Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013&quot;&gt;Turtle Sense/Minutes of conference call 10-18-2013&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect: subpage&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:55, 22 December 2013&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Sam</name></author>
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		<title>Chuck at 20:42, 14 December 2013</title>
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		<updated>2013-12-14T20:42:03Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===AGENDA===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===AGENDA===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Intro: Tom gave a brief introduction of Chuck  (present for first time).  Chuck had sent email items prior to phone conference &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; [[Chuck pre-call email on possible resources]]&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Intro: Tom gave a brief introduction of Chuck  (present for first time).  Chuck had sent email items prior to phone conference&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====1. Finances.====   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====1. Finances.====   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====6. Funding====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====6. Funding====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Crowd funding &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(Wade suggestion attached)&lt;/del&gt;.  Sam has done two of these, noted they are a lot of work and require well-advertised buildup to an event with subsequent follow thru.  Would require swag and effective donor stroking/communication.  May be beyond our resources. Correct timing and correct dollar goals are critical if we proceed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Crowd funding&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.  Chuck suggested CrowdRise&lt;/ins&gt;.  Sam has done two of these, noted they are a lot of work and require well-advertised buildup to an event with subsequent follow thru.  Would require swag and effective donor stroking/communication.  May be beyond our resources. Correct timing and correct dollar goals are critical if we proceed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Eric:  In NC Coastal Fishing grant proposal (Would be summer 2015 money).  $100k in budget.  Grant station, Center for Non-profit Excellence (Charlottesville, VA high schoolers working on proposals)?   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Eric:  In NC Coastal Fishing grant proposal (Would be summer 2015 money).  $100k in budget.  Grant station, Center for Non-profit Excellence (Charlottesville, VA high schoolers working on proposals)?   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Chuck</name></author>
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		<title>Chuck: Created page with &quot;Participants:  Tom Zimmerman,   Sam Wantman, Dave Hermeyer, Eric Kaplan, Charles Wade ===AGENDA===  Intro: Tom gave a brief introduction of Chuck  (present for first time).  C...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2013-12-14T20:12:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Participants:  Tom Zimmerman,   Sam Wantman, Dave Hermeyer, Eric Kaplan, Charles Wade ===AGENDA===  Intro: Tom gave a brief introduction of Chuck  (present for first time).  C...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Participants:  Tom Zimmerman,   Sam Wantman, Dave Hermeyer, Eric Kaplan, Charles Wade&lt;br /&gt;
===AGENDA===&lt;br /&gt;
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Intro: Tom gave a brief introduction of Chuck  (present for first time).  Chuck had sent email items prior to phone conference  [[Chuck pre-call email on possible resources]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====1. Finances.====  &lt;br /&gt;
It appears we need at least $15k for 30 units.  Eric: NPS will do $50k/year for awhile.  They now derive revenue from charges to drive on beach which may be the fund source.  Available 2014 (Eric to follow up)?  If so, this may cover our expenses next year?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====2. Other Cities/Areas?====&lt;br /&gt;
Alabama-NASA engineer.  Backend project  perhaps for BBAFF proposal (Kaplan) for NC Coastal Recreational Fishing License Fund. Put eggs in cages?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bald Head Island, NC. Large organization with strong funding&lt;br /&gt;
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Audubon Voyager?&lt;br /&gt;
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====3. Web support====&lt;br /&gt;
Sam:  SF person developing mapping for satellite data, sent over internet, which might be useful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sam developing Nerd without Borders WIKI.  Strong arguments for open source site which covers what we’ve developed/learned.  Should cover such as teaching (best practices), devices, design experiences.&lt;br /&gt;
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Long discussion on whether in addition to the public section there should be a private section (just this group).  Private may be needed  for legal interactions with future partners.  Issue not resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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====4. Engineering team,  version 2====&lt;br /&gt;
Sam and Tom.  Discussion as to changes coming.   Comments on need for a time line.&lt;br /&gt;
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====5. Radio version====&lt;br /&gt;
Sam has found volunteers who will possibly create this and perhaps assemble as well.  Looking for inexpensive design&lt;br /&gt;
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====6. Funding====&lt;br /&gt;
Crowd funding (Wade suggestion attached).  Sam has done two of these, noted they are a lot of work and require well-advertised buildup to an event with subsequent follow thru.  Would require swag and effective donor stroking/communication.  May be beyond our resources. Correct timing and correct dollar goals are critical if we proceed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eric:  In NC Coastal Fishing grant proposal (Would be summer 2015 money).  $100k in budget.  Grant station, Center for Non-profit Excellence (Charlottesville, VA high schoolers working on proposals)?  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DECA marketing programs?&lt;br /&gt;
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Paradox: environmentalists and the “drive on beach” interests have a common goal in reducing the time needed for path to beach.  &lt;br /&gt;
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====7. Other Groups with related goals====&lt;br /&gt;
Seaturtlehospital.org  (Karen Beasley center, topsail island)&lt;br /&gt;
Lew Browning (associated with Beasley?&lt;br /&gt;
SeaTurtleConservancy.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many web sites.&lt;br /&gt;
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====8. Possible Swag====&lt;br /&gt;
List from Sam and Tom:  Pool on  hatching date;  pool on tagged female turtles (GPS) return date for nesting. More?? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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====9. Division of labor====&lt;br /&gt;
Eric: involvement of Hatteras Island Ocean Center  non-profit; interface with NPS including actions at nest sites; interface with turtle groups., esp North Carolina&lt;br /&gt;
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Dave/Sam: Engineering/electronic communications&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom:  Probe device design/construction&lt;br /&gt;
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Chuck:  admin, funding, searches for effective turtle web sites&lt;br /&gt;
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====10.  Tom IBM availability.====&lt;br /&gt;
Percentage of time he can devote to this is set by IBM management policy.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Chuck</name></author>
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